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    Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen, damit die eigene Bevölkerung Arbeitsplätze für sich behält.

    Wohin werden die ausgewiesenen Pakistani dann gehen? GB? Wieviele werden in Saudiarabien untertauchen und erst recht in die Sklaverei geraten?


    http://www.thenewstribe.com/2013/05/...al-immigrants/

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    AW: Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    Würde sowas in Europa passieren, würden wieder jeder Gutmensch schreien "Kein Mensch ist illegal!" Vorsichtshalber erfährt der Durchschnittsmichel sowas gar nicht erst.

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    AW: Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    Es ist zu bezweifeln, dass in der autochthonen saudischen Bevölkerung Ersatz gefunden werden kann. Die Pakistani werden dort sicher niedere Arbeiten verrichten und dazu ist sich jeder Saudi zu schade.
    Alle Texte, die keine Quellenangaben haben, stammen von mir.

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    AW: Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    Saudi-Arabien: Über 6.000 illegale OFW müssen eiligst zurück

    Eingestellt unter: Politik, international
    11. Apr. 2013 – Mehr als 6.000 illegale Filipinos, darunter auch Kinder, versuchen sofort aus Saudi-Arabien wegzukommen. Arbeitsministerin Rosalinda Baldoz sagte gestern, der Bericht stamme von der ‘Philippine Overseas Labor Office’ (POLO) in Riad.
    “Bis zum 7. April waren es 6.277 Personen, wovon 5.712 illegale Arbeiter waren und 565 Minderjährige, die ihr dringendes Bestreben nach Hause zu gehen, signalisierten.” sagte sie. Baldoz berichtete, dass eine Mehrheit oder 3.850 von ihnen, Frauen seien.
    Die POLO hat bislang keine Berichte über OFWs erhalten, die verhaftet wurden, weil sie illegale Ausländer seien, fügte sie hinzu. Baldoz erwartet, dass die saudischen Behörden in vollem Umfang Arbeitsgesetze und Visabestimmungen durchsetzen werden, sobald die Gnadenfrist endet.
    Diejenigen die dann noch die Bestimmungen verletzten, erwarten Geldbußen zwischen 11.000 Pesos bis über 500.000 Pesos.
    Illegale Mütter und Kinder sollten sofort abreisen. “Die meisten Eltern haben keine Heiratsurkunde. Unter der Scharia ist jedoch die Geburt außerhalb der Ehe strafbar und wird mit Freiheitsstrafe belegt, die vor der Deportation abzuleisten ist.
    Die POLO arbeitet mit den saudischen Behörden zusammen und unterstützt bereits die “Rückkehrwilligen”. Das Arbeitsministerium schätzt, dass mehr als 30.000 illegale Filipinos in Saudi-Arabien sind.
    http://www.philippinen.cc/2013/04/sa...iligst-zuruck/

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    AW: Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    Und andererseits versuchen somalische Flüchtlinge in das Land zu gelangen.

    30.000 Boatpeople dieser Tage im Jemen angekommen

    29 April 2013
    © UNHCR/R.Nuri

    Somalische Boatpeople erholen sich an der Küste Jemens nach ihrer gefährlichen Überfahrt vom Horn von Afrika.

    Jemen/Sanaa - 30.000 Flüchtlinge und illegale Migranten sind dieser Tage bereits im Jemen angekommen. Die meisten stammen aus Äthiopien, Somalia und anderen afrikanischen Ländern. Viele haben die lebensgefährliche Bootsfahrt vom Horn von Afrika auf sich genommen.
    Insgesamt sind seit 2006, als UNHCR damit begonnen hat Daten zu sammeln, nahezu eine halbe Million Menschen (477.000) in den Jemen gekommen - sie haben die lebensgefährliche Überfahrt vom Horn von Afrika auf sich genommen.
    Die Anzahl an Flüchtlingen, Asylsuchenden und Migranten im Jemen ist in den vergangenen sechs Jahren mit jedem Jahr gestiegen.

    Transitland im Kampf gegen Menschenhandel

    Somalier, die in den Jemen kommen, werden von den Behörden automatisch als Flüchtlinge anerkannt. UNHCR hingegen übernimmt die Feststellung der Flüchtlingseigenschaft für alle anderen Nationalitäten. Der Jemen wird auch regelmäßig als Transitland von Menschen aus Äthiopien genutzt, die in die Golfstaaten weiterreisen wollen. Nur wenige Äthiopier entscheiden sich, um Asyl anzusuchen. Es gibt viele Berichte über Misshandlung, Missbrauch oder Folter unter den Menschen, die die Reise in Schmugglerbooten zurücklegen.

    Konflikte und die Instabilität im Jemen haben die Möglichkeiten der Behörden, gegen Menschenhandel vorzugehen, eingeschränkt - besonders schwierig ist es entlang der Küste des Roten Meeres, wo jemenitische Schlepper und Menschenhändler oftmals auf Neuankömmlinge vom Horn von Afrika warten.

    Behörden befreiten 500 Äthiopier

    Vor kurzem hat die Regierung verstärkt Anstrengungen unternommen, die Verstecke der Schlepper aufzuspüren. Erst vergangene Woche haben jemenitische Behörden im Hajjah Gouvernement nahe der saudischen Grenze Häuser gestürmt, die von Menschenhändlern genutzt worden waren. Dabei konnten mehr als 500 äthiopische Migranten befreit werden - unter ihnen Frauen und Kinder. Viele der befreiten Afrikaner zeigten deutliche Spuren von Missbrauch und Folter. Obwohl derartige Hausdurchsuchungen von den Behörden seit 2012 durchgeführt werden, sind die Fälle von Erpressung, Ausbeutung, Gewalt und sexuellem Missbrauch im Steigen begriffen.

    Viele der Neuankömmlinge werden verschleppt oder an der Küste zurückgelassen. Sie versuchen im Normalfall zu Fuß in den Bezirk Haradh im Norden des Landes zu gelangen - nur um dort oftmals festzustellen, dass sie nicht nach Saudi Arabien weiterreisen können.

    Gastfreundschaft zeichnet Jemen aus


    Historisch betrachtet ist Jemen ein Transitland für Migranten und zeichnet sich in der Region durch seine Gastfreundlichkeit gegenüber Flüchtlingen aus. Das Land beherbergt mehr als 242.000 Flüchtlinge, von den 231.064 somalischer Herkunft sind.

    Insgesamt sind im Januar 7518, im Februar 10.145 und im März 1.806 Menschen in das Land eingereist. Die Neuankömmlinge von April werden derzeit von UNHCR erfasst.
    http://www.unhcr.de/home/artikel/e85...ommen.html?L=0

    Zufällig entspricht diese Zahl genau den auszuweisenden Pakistani. Aber an Austausch wird da wohl nicht gedacht.

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    AW: Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    Zitat Zitat von burgfee Beitrag anzeigen
    Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen, damit die eigene Bevölkerung Arbeitsplätze für sich behält.

    Wohin werden die ausgewiesenen Pakistani dann gehen? GB? Wieviele werden in Saudiarabien untertauchen und erst recht in die Sklaverei geraten?


    http://www.thenewstribe.com/2013/05/...al-immigrants/
    Es ist bekannt, daß die Saudis nicht selber arbeiten, wenn die "Arbeit" nicht nur darin besteht, ein Büro zu unterhalten, das maximal ein Mal am Tag eine halbe Stunde besucht wird, um mal kurz Cheffe zu spielen. Es gab vor Jahren bereits einmal den Versuch, die sich langweilende Jugend in Beschäftigung zu bringen und zwar eine, von der man annahm, daß die bereitwillig und gerne ausgeführt wird. Qualifikation war keine nötig. Es sollte nur das Hobby zum Beruf gemacht werden. Also lautete die Kampagne "Taxifahrer sollt ihr werden". Das Projekt wurde mangels Interesse eingestellt.

    Die Saudis versuchen nur, den Arbeitskräfteüberschuß wieder schnell loszuwerden, das ist alles.

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    AW: Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    Zitat Zitat von Turmfalke Beitrag anzeigen
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    Die Saudis versuchen nur, den Arbeitskräfteüberschuß wieder schnell loszuwerden, das ist alles.

    Ja , wenn man genauer reinliest erfährt man auch, daß sie speziell diejenigen als Illegale erklären, deren Arbeit nicht exakt der entspricht für die sie ein Visum haben.
    Möglicherweise gilt das auch nicht nur für Pakistanis, sondern allgemein. Vielleicht sind die Pakistani die größte betrogffene Gruppe, weswegen nur sie in dem Artikel erwähnt wurden, bzw die Zeitung eine pakistanische, so daß die sich in erster Linie für ihre Landsleute interessieren.

    Wie man im anderen Artikel erfährt ist die Gruppe der betroffenen größer, betrifft auch philippinische Frauen auh mit anderen Begründungen etc.

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    AW: Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    At the same time in another move, the Labor Ministry also started a crackdown against the foreign owners of small and medium sized enterprises (SMEs). According to the Labor Ministry, there are at least 250,000 SMEs with not a single Saudi worker and most of these firms are run by foreigners who give their real Saudi owners a specific amount annually. At least 2 million expatriates may lose their jobs or leave the Kingdom shortly as about 250,000 small and medium enterprises will be listed in the Red category of the Labor Ministry’s “Nitaqat” system. The Labor Ministry said that this move was made to Saudize jobs and prevent cover-up businesses.
    http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/.../#.UadwKdc6ibg

    Anscheinend werden auch 250.000 ausländische kleine und mittelständische Unternehmen kurzfristig mit dem eisernen Besen aus dem Land gefegt, mit ihnen 2 Millionen Mitarbeiter.

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    AW: Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    Die Firmen müssen nun einen 30 Punkte Katalog einhalten.

    30-point blueprint for private firms


    • Foreign illegal laborers wait in a long queue outside the immigration offices in Riyadh. (AFP)









    Last Update 30 May 2013 4:01 am

    The Ministry of Labor yesterday announced its plan to introduce a strategic program to evaluate the performance of firms across the country as part of its ongoing efforts to make them comply with the country’s labor regulations and protect the rights of workers.
    “The program, which will be launched early next year, aims at intensifying the ministry’s monitoring system for some 1.2 million firms and raise their awareness of labor regulations,” said Abdullah bin Nasser Abuthnain, deputy minister for inspections.
    The ministry has set out 30 criteria for firms to ensure their excellence. They include payment of workers’ wages on time, not asking employees to work more than eight hours or 48 hours a week and payment of gratuity. During Ramadan, Muslim workers should not be asked to work more than six hours daily and 36 hours weekly. In addition, a firm should not hold any wage, or part of it, without a court order.
    Other major criteria include the fact that firms should use Arabic as the official language in their statements, files and contracts; prepare an internal work organizing system and get it approved by the ministry; appoint a person to represent the firm’s owner at workplace; and employ Saudis and provide them with suitable working atmosphere.
    There are certain criteria related to women workers. Firms should give them special leave as required and should not ask them to do jobs that do not suit their nature, in addition to following the rules of employing women.
    “Foreigners should not be employed without obtaining labor permits, nor should they be employed in a profession that is not mentioned in the permit. Firms should not allow its employees to work for others or on their own,” the ministry explained.
    It is the duty of the firm to pay all fees for the recruitment of workers as well as fees for issuing residency permits and work permits and for their renewal and related fines, the fee of changing profession, exit/re-entry visas and for the ticket for a worker to return to home country after the end of contract.
    “The firm should also try to replace its foreign workers by Saudis gradually by providing them with necessary training,” the ministry said. Firms having 50 or more workers should train at least six percent of Saudi workers.
    Firms having 25 or more workers should employ people of special needs (at least four percent), and injured workers should be given suitable jobs in the institution and this should not deny them the right to get compensation for the injury. The calculation for overtime payment will be at the rate of not less than 150 percent of the basic wage.
    The firms have to fill an evaluation form that has been prepared on the basis of certain criteria to know how far they comply with labor rules and the ministry’s decisions. The program will assist the ministry’s inspections.
    The ministry held a workshop on the program at Marriott Hotel in Riyadh on Tuesday in the presence of representatives from the Council of Saudi Chambers, the Riyadh Chamber of Commerce and Industry and 70 private firms as well as business executives.
    “This program will be applied on firms electronically through the ministry’s website,” said Abuthnain. “It will not nullify the role of inspectors but help them,” he said during the workshop. “We are planning to announce certain incentives for firms that follow the criteria set by the ministry for their excellent performance,” he said.

    http://arabnews.com/news/453395

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    AW: Saudi Arabien erklärt 30.000 Pakistani zu Illegalen

    Opinion: Saudi Labor Law and Pakistani Expats

    Submitted by smuhammad on April 8, 2013 – 6:13 pm18 Comments
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    PKKH Exclusive|By Atiq Durrani
    On 18th March 2013, Saudi Arabian Government made amendments in Article 39 of Saudi Labor Law at the Cabinet meeting chaired by Crown Prince Salman, Second Deputy Premier and Minister of Defense.These amendments say that the Sponsor is not allowed to let his Worker work for others nor is he allowed to employ the Workers of other Sponsors, meaning that the employees will be bound to work with their sponsors only.
    At the same time in another move, the Labor Ministry also started a crackdown against the foreign owners of small and medium sized enterprises (SMEs). According to the Labor Ministry, there are at least 250,000 SMEs with not a single Saudi worker and most of these firms are run by foreigners who give their real Saudi owners a specific amount annually. At least 2 million expatriates may lose their jobs or leave the Kingdom shortly as about 250,000 small and medium enterprises will be listed in the Red category of the Labor Ministry’s “Nitaqat” system. The Labor Ministry said that this move was made to Saudize jobs and prevent cover-up businesses.

    Immediately after these amendments, a crackdown was started against the expatriates in most of the parts of Saudi Arabia. A large number of expatriates including Indian, Pakistani, Yemeni and many other nationals were arrested for violating Iqama (Residential permit) and labor regulations.
    Recently the Saudi Government made a few changes in the laws, categorized the companies in Blue, Green, Yellow and Red categories and also levied sponsors. These amendments and levy directly affect expatriates only. To understand it more properly you will need to understand the kinds of sponsorships.

    To work in Saudi Arabia, you need a sponsor - that sponsor can be a national/multinational firm or an individual Saudi (Owner of SMEs). If the sponsor is an organization/company, this visa is commonly known as “Company Visa”; and if your sponsor is an individual Saudi, this visa is commonly known as “Azad Visa” in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
    In case of Companies, recently the Saudi Government categorized them in four Zones (Red-, Yellow-, Green and Blue) according to the percentage of Saudi employees in the firm.
    In this case, many Pakistanis were not able to find jobs in green and blue zone firms when they originally belonged to a Red Zone firm, and now their Iqamas cannot be renewed. Most of them had paid about Rs. 200,000 to 300,000 to get these visas, and when they arrived here they came to know that their company is in Red Zone, they can neither work here nor their iqamas can be renewed.
    The other option is of a Visa sponsored by individual Saudis or the owners of SMEs, commonly known as “Azad Visa”. The expatriates working on this kind of visas are the most affected by the new laws of the Saudi Labor Ministry. Those Pakistanis who come to Saudi Arabia on this kind of visas have to pay about Rs. 600,000 (SR. 20,000 to SR.25,000) to buy this visa. Normally Saudi individual sponsors will get the visa from the government and sell it to the agents in Saudi Arabia or in other countries. These agents used to sell visas through their sub-agents to the people who are willing to go to Saudi Arabia in search of jobs or work.
    These workers don’t have any job surety when they arrive in Saudi Arabia. They have to find a job, pay the fees for their residential permit (Iqama), arrange their accommodation, food etc. If the expat on Azad Visa is lucky, he may find a job within a few days, otherwise it can take months and even a year, depending on his profession. Some of these expatriates find jobs with other employers, and some start their own small businesses and have to pay a specific amount - mutually decided, - to his sponsor monthly/annually as well as all the other

    governments fees, whether he has a job or not.
    Last year, the Saudi Government decided to levy SR 2,400 for each expatriate worker annually, to discourage the recruitment of expatriates by the local and international companies. In firms, this levy is paid by the firm as they need the services of their employees, but those expatriates who are working with Individual Saudi sponsors have to pay this money from their income, whether they have one or not. So ultimately this levy also affected the employees in case of individual sponsors.
    But this recent law amendment closed all the opportunities for them. Their own sponsors don’t have enough jobs to offer to them, and they can’t work outside with any other sponsor because of this law.
    Several international schools in Saudi Arabia are facing a crisis, after teachers recruited through non-official channels stay at home to avoid possible labor inspection visits.
    Under the new labor laws that are now being strictly applied by the labor ministry, international schools cannot recruit teachers who are not under the school sponsorship. This puts an end to a widely used practice in Saudi Arabia.
    The Indian Minister of State for External Affairs E. Ahmed showed his concerns over this new law in a meeting on Friday with Saudi Deputy Foreign Minister Prince Abdul Aziz Bin Abdulla Bin

    Abdul Aziz Al Saud, on the sidelines of the 11th Asia Cooperation Dialogue (ACD) ministerial meeting at Dushanbe, Tajikistan.
    Our Government is silent as usual over this, and Pakistani expatriates are still waiting for some help from the Pakistani Government. Although it’s understood that the Saudi Government is free to make laws for the welfare of their people, and if the crackdown is done against the illegal residents in Saudi Arabia it’s again understandable; but our government should raise this issue with the Saudi government on the basis that with the change of this law, thousands of Pakistanis will be effected. These Pakistanis were legally working in Saudi Arabia a few days back but just one amendment in the law made them illegal workers. The Saudi government should give them some time so that they can try to find some other sponsor, or pay them the amount that they paid for their visas so that they should not suffer for the rest of their life, paying back the loans they got to buy these visas.
    The number of Pakistani expats in Saudi Arabia is consistently increasing and currently exceeds 1.5 million. These Pakistani expats are not only earning bread and butter for their families, but the economy of Pakistan also depends on the remittance of these Pakistanis as well. The remittances of Pakistani workers from the Kingdom have increased significantly to about $3 billion annually. Pakistan became the fifth largest remittance-recipient nation in the developing world in 2011, registering a strong growth of 25.8%, relative to a 10.1% growth in remittances in South Asia. According to an IMF research paper, workers’ remittances contribute almost 4% to the country’s GDP, and are equivalent to almost 22% of annual exports of goods and services. Still, when overseas Pakistanis need some kind of support from the Pakistani government, they never get that.
    Actions of the Saudi Government are understandable, this is their country and they are doing this for the welfare of their people. But what is our Government doing for the welfare of overseas Pakistanis who have been shouldering the economy of Pakistan so firmly during the past 5 years of the crisis? Whenever Pakistan is in economic crises, or there is some natural disaster in Pakistan, or the Pakistani government needs any help from the overseas Pakistanis; they never turn their back towards Pakistan. So it’s the responsibility of our government to help overseas Pakistanis and stand with them when they are in some kind of crises.
    According to one recent report in Arab News, the employee can file a complaint with the Labor Office if his employer refuses to pay his outstanding dues like vacation pay, unfair dismissal pay or end-of-term services benefits. In such cases also, the Consulates in the Kingdom should facilitate the workers and provide legal assistance to them.
    At the same time, the Saudi government should stop issuing new visas so that more people should not suffer. At one end, the Saudi people are making money by selling these visas; and on the other side, when they arrive the Saudi government doesn’t allow them to work in the Kingdom and sends them back to their countries. Employers, who have been exploiting human needs, are also equally responsible for all this mess. Their actions are an explicit violation of the laws and regulations of this country. The Saudi Government should make them pay, not only the cost of deportation of violators, but they should also pay some reasonable amount to their employees.
    It has also been noticed that some Facebook pages, news sites and people making comments on these posts on alternative media are trying to link this crackdown against the expatriates with the handing over of Gawadar port to China and Iran-Pakistan Gas pipeline, which is completely irrelevant to these actions of the Saudi Government. This crackdown is not only against Pakistanis, it is against all the expatriates working illegally in Saudi Arabia.
    Recent Developments
    As per the suggestion in this article and support from many journalists, analysts and businessmen in the kingdom, King Abdullah, Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, have directed ministries of interior and labor to give three-month grace period to workers violating the labor and residency (Iqama) regulations to correct their status. Pakistani and other expatriates in the Kingdom cherished the directives by King Abdullah. It will help the expatriates to resolve their Iqama problems with their employers.
    Saudi journalists, analysts and businessmen also played a conspicuous role in attaining these orders. It would have been much problematic for the expatriates in Saudi, to inform the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques, King Abdullah and government officials about their problems without the help of journalists in Kingdom. The articles penned down by Tariq A. Al-Maeena, Khalaf Al-Harbi, Abdullah Sayel and many other journalists, reflected the true picture of the problems faced by the expatriates after the sudden raids of government officials.
    It is the responsibility of all the expatriates in Saudi, to correct their documents with in these three months as after the end of this grace period, the labor ministry will not accept any justifications related to sponsorship and Iqama problems after this period. Labor Minister Adel Fakleih also called on all illegal expatriates to avail this opportunity and said that his ministry will facilitates the expatriates to correct their status.
    Atiq Durrani is an IT professional and student of Mass Communication. Can be reached at atiq.pkkh@gmail.com and tweets at @SunnyDurrani738
    http://www.pakistankakhudahafiz.com/.../#.UadwKdc6ibg

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